Joe Hawkins is keen to follow his old Swansea Valley football rival Rubin Colwill onto the full international stage, but is happy to bide his time.
Ospreys centre Hawkins and fellow 19-year-old Colwill – already a senior Wales football international after a breakthrough year at Cardiff City - used to play football against each other as 15-year-olds, until Hawkins gave his sole attention to rugby.
The pair were contemporaries making their mark in the Swansea Valley, although Hawkins went to Cwmtawe Comprehensive School just down the road, rather than Colwill’s Ysgol Gymraeg Ystalyfera.
“I played football against Rubin a couple of times for the school when we had some good battles between Cwmtawe and Ystalyfera,” says Hawkins, who caught the eye for Wales U20s in the summer.
“He’s doing really well with Cardiff City and Wales. When I came to year 11, I stopped playing football because the rugby became serious and I concentrated on that.
“But the amount of sports people who have come from the area is impressive. It’s a credit to both schools for the opportunities they provide. They give chances to everyone.”
Hawkins has certainly seized his chance since bursting into the Ospreys team a year ago when he was still only 18 years-old.
Strong, powerful, but with subtle skills, Hawkins played 10 times for the Ospreys last season and has already come off the bench against the Cell C Sharks, Benetton and Munster in the current campaign.
The son of former Aberavon centre David Hawkins and nephew of former Neath scrum-half Daniel Hawkins, if Joe is a chip off the old blocks then he is a much bigger one than the original blocks themselves.
His potential was spotted early and he was brought into the Wales U20 squad at just 17, but has the foresight to realise this season will be about taking on more experience at the Ospreys and soaking up the wisdom on offer from the likes of Owen Watkin, Gareth Anscombe and Stephen Myler.
“I had a leadership role in the U20s because I had played a few games for the Ospreys last season,” says Hawkins.
“But at the Ospreys, even though the players are older than me, we are all on the same team. We are encouraged to give input and everyone feels able to contribute.
“With Steve, for me it’s so helpful to see the way he previews opposition teams during the week - the way to exploit teams and things I wouldn’t have thought of.
“It might be, say, how the opposition wingers are defending. Maybe I would be looking a little closer in to the ball, he sees things further away that I haven’t seen.
“I want to establish myself a bit more at the Ospreys, get a few more starts and make an impact this season."
“In the long term, like every player in Wales, I want to play for Wales.”
Like Alun Wyn Jones, the 37-year-old Myler is also an inspiration for Hawkins when it comes to how to look after the body of an athlete so that it’s still functioning after 20 years of professional sport.
Hawkins gets into the Ospreys’ gym for pre-training conditioning at 8.05am every morning. Myler is normally already there.
Hawkins adds: “I’m excited. As a young player you just want to play against the best players from around the world and being here is an opportunity to do that.
"We’ve had a decent start to the season apart from one bump in the road against the Sharks. So, overall, we are happy with the way the season has begun.”